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	<title>Comments on: Product UI Design: Why the green up-arrow isn’t always good</title>
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		<title>By: Ram</title>
		<link>http://blog.cascadesoft.net/2009/07/05/product-ui-design-why-the-green-up-arrow-isn%e2%80%99t-always-good/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Shyam, these are good points. I hadn&#039;t thought about using circles (instead of arrows). You also make a great point in noting that the current usage of arrows helps color-blind people. 

I agree that using white arrows (or circles) would address one of the limitations of option-3. However, the bigger issue with option-3 (the judgmental issue) is still not completely addressed. 
For instance, is the interest rate a &quot;good&quot; indicator or a &quot;bad&quot; indicator. How about imports ? Should they get a green background or a red background ?

As discussed in the original post, sometimes it is good for the interest rate to go up, but some other times it is better for the rate to go down and it is hard to pigeon-hole some indicators into &quot;good&quot; and &quot;bad&quot; categories.

So overall, it seems like choosing option-4 was the right thing to do. As you note, UI design questions are often complex matters. So the choice of option-4 is debatable, but for now, it seems to work fine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shyam, these are good points. I hadn&#8217;t thought about using circles (instead of arrows). You also make a great point in noting that the current usage of arrows helps color-blind people. </p>
<p>I agree that using white arrows (or circles) would address one of the limitations of option-3. However, the bigger issue with option-3 (the judgmental issue) is still not completely addressed.<br />
For instance, is the interest rate a &#8220;good&#8221; indicator or a &#8220;bad&#8221; indicator. How about imports ? Should they get a green background or a red background ?</p>
<p>As discussed in the original post, sometimes it is good for the interest rate to go up, but some other times it is better for the rate to go down and it is hard to pigeon-hole some indicators into &#8220;good&#8221; and &#8220;bad&#8221; categories.</p>
<p>So overall, it seems like choosing option-4 was the right thing to do. As you note, UI design questions are often complex matters. So the choice of option-4 is debatable, but for now, it seems to work fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Shyam Habarakada</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shyam Habarakada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are other options you you can consider here. Typical users pay a lot more attention to color than the actual shape of the icon image. For instance, instead of arrows, you can just have red or green circles, and they would still get an accurate interpretation of the good or bad indicator. 

The actual image-part in the icon (an arrow shape in this case) is useful to people who may be vision impaired (say, color blind) and cannot distinguish between various colors.

One solution that addresses both might have been to add an icon background and have that background take the colors red or green. In this case, the arrow would remain white (or an appropriate color with sufficient contrast) against the colored background.

Overall, you&#039;re right - Choosing the right icons is a complex problem and requires a lot of testing and making many considerations. If I were hiring a visual designer, this speciic scenario might be a great interview question :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are other options you you can consider here. Typical users pay a lot more attention to color than the actual shape of the icon image. For instance, instead of arrows, you can just have red or green circles, and they would still get an accurate interpretation of the good or bad indicator. </p>
<p>The actual image-part in the icon (an arrow shape in this case) is useful to people who may be vision impaired (say, color blind) and cannot distinguish between various colors.</p>
<p>One solution that addresses both might have been to add an icon background and have that background take the colors red or green. In this case, the arrow would remain white (or an appropriate color with sufficient contrast) against the colored background.</p>
<p>Overall, you&#8217;re right &#8211; Choosing the right icons is a complex problem and requires a lot of testing and making many considerations. If I were hiring a visual designer, this speciic scenario might be a great interview question <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ram</title>
		<link>http://blog.cascadesoft.net/2009/07/05/product-ui-design-why-the-green-up-arrow-isn%e2%80%99t-always-good/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Steven, thanks for the suggestion. However, the Federal Reserve doesn&#039;t publish numbers on freight car loadings and container loadings. The iPhone Economy app relies on the Federal Reserve for its data. So we can&#039;t show numbers on freight car loadings. Sorry about that.

Some of the indicators in the &quot;Business&quot; section of the app (like Industrial Production Capacity Utilization etc.) may give you an early indication of market demand. Others (like Manufacturers&#039; new orders:Durable goods) may also be helpful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steven, thanks for the suggestion. However, the Federal Reserve doesn&#8217;t publish numbers on freight car loadings and container loadings. The iPhone Economy app relies on the Federal Reserve for its data. So we can&#8217;t show numbers on freight car loadings. Sorry about that.</p>
<p>Some of the indicators in the &#8220;Business&#8221; section of the app (like Industrial Production Capacity Utilization etc.) may give you an early indication of market demand. Others (like Manufacturers&#8217; new orders:Durable goods) may also be helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Kammerer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Kammerer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could you add Freight Car loadings or container loadings to your economic data program to give an earlier indication of economic activity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you add Freight Car loadings or container loadings to your economic data program to give an earlier indication of economic activity.</p>
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